Suicide: The Seven Primary Causes

tell you there this is Michael Moore dad just gonna share some time with our friday-night spiritual insights with Michael Moore dad program so thanks for joining us today we're going to share on a topic that's a little probably challenging for lots of people because instead of it being about ascension or cosmic consciousness in some way we're going to talk about in a sense life death a suicide struggle depression things that are a little bit challenging now before you tune out thinking you know this has nothing to do with me I

advise you to understand that before your time is done on planet Earth you're likely gonna know somebody that's taking their own life and if not you're gonna know people that have considered it so it's really quite important to know these things because you'll also know people who have thought about it or tried and you never know you might be their lifesaver literally and figuratively so I'd like to you know share some thoughts about this I'm not talking about things that are accidental suicides you know but

what people interpret as accidental overdoses and things like that so then we're not talking about that were we're talking about a person that's making a conscious choice and I'm going to talk about I think we should address probably the main causes and then some maybe some preventive 's and some some you know good ideas on what to do as a way of healing the consciousness that goes in this direction so you know bear with me because it's a-you know like I said a bit of a strange topic but it's

something that some of you have asked for over the years and we just never had a chance to get to that but you know as per one of the questions that came in today I thought well you know let's just do it so we're gonna go for that [Music] again you may not be someone who thinks it applies to you but boy what a difference you can make in people's life just being aware of things like this and there are people far more people than would but be typically admitted that consider take taking their own life and

the reason the reasons people consider such a thing I'm going to name probably seven things that's what comes to mind first at least six maybe seven things all named as the primary reasons that people take their life or would consider taking their life so the first woman and some of these are going to be obvious to you but you know it's still they're still important to cover but the first one I'm gonna say is gonna be the the most primal because it's selfish not all of them so just bear with me but the

first reason people consider or do in fact commit suicide there's one reason and that selfishness sometimes you know they're trying to selflessly selfishly get attention or sometimes revenge sorry to say but it does happen you know attention would be a person that feels kind of inadequate and so they're you know they're truant trying to draw attention to themselves you know it could be you know you could say it's it's really desperate measures to get attention I want someone to see me to

notice me and in a sense that's it's just selfish so I'm trying to get selfish out of the way not to turn you off and make you think that it's a negative but it's one of the reasons and revenge you know sometimes people are just so hurt and angry at someone they figure hey you know what I feel so terrible I want you to be in hell with me and they feel like it's a way to punish the person and once they do something like that oh my god there's just practically no reversing it because

you've done something that's going to try to get the attention of someone in such a hurtful way but really the person you're trying to hurt should just do a goodbye exercise and disconnect they do not have to get dragged into that with you so you know you're really wasting your time trying to hurt people but if you succeed dragging someone in and hurting them it's just terrible it's really bad karma but it's just a terrible thing to even consider doing but revenge and and attention getting

those are really the selfish reasons that's just number one the second reason is the one that's really obvious depression you know obviously people you know that are there are people that are just so depressed they're thinking in terms of I want out of this and it you know if I just go at least I won't feel as badly as I do now I'll feel not as hopeless as I do know it's it just feels like it's there's it's a way out you know and maybe things will feel better on the other side and their depression

can be caused by things like loss loss of a loved one loss of a job feeling like a failure you know maybe they failed at a job endeavor embarrassed you know the the famous stories of people going to Hollywood to make it big you know and it didn't happen they ended up getting used and abused they never wanted to go home they were broke financially some end up on the street some end up in you know prostitution addictions of different kinds and you know it's kind of horrible and so you just feel like a failure a

lack of direction can even be one of the reasons causing like a depression and you know it's just it just makes us feel like well I'm so far into this I don't know of any way out and and nobody seems to know of a way out you know so they just kind of go the direction that they feel like is you know it's sort of like no other option so that's the second reason a third reason that people consider or do in fact take their lives is pain that obviously physical pain and I could say emotional pain and that sounds

similar to depression so I'll focus on just the being in pain physical pain the physical pain can be oh my gosh you know think about it guys it could be botched surgeries you know or it could just be injuries the person's in a lot of pain and even drug addiction and drug withdrawal can cause of such pain that people are like wow this this is so horrible I've got to get out of this but that's the physical pain examples of physical pain emotional pain you know most of the emotional pain like I said

is going to be covered under the other categories I'm sort of briefing over but you know just basically being emotionally overwhelmed and possibly you know just not knowing what direction to turn because you know your your your typical ideas or answers when it comes to feeling these ways there's crisis hotlines which I would recommend if you're feeling that far you know out out of control there's crisis hotlines there's suicide hotlines there's all kinds of people or institutions or groups that you can reach out to and

people that consider suicide they really need to reach out it's not like they should go well I'll just wait till it's maybe so severe that I know I have to reach out to someone maybe start off with friends if it's just a light amount of what we call a it's called suicide ideation meaning you're you're considering you're contemplating it it's it's a thought that rolls through your mind so if it's sort of a casual thing talk to casual people you know friends and just you know get some feedback if

it gets more severe go to more extreme people or groups or whatever that you could reach out to so the more severe it is the more you should reach out to more severe you know groups or places even if it meant hospitalizing yourself because when it does get too far and there's reasons for this when it does get too far you sometimes get hooked by it and sometimes that's because there's chemical imbalances and once they're too far gone you're not gonna be in a position to go wait let me rethink this and reach out

your far you're too far gone because the chemical imbalance doesn't allow you to think clearly sometimes if you're just emotionally so far gone you know like you're struggling in a relationship and you figure well I just gotta feel so crazy I want to just want to go I want to leave and you think but it's okay because we bounce back in this relationship one day it doesn't bounce back the person says I'm out of here goodbye and you you cannot bounce back because they didn't pull you back in in the

relationship there was nobody left to give you that codependent bouncing back and forth so now they're gone so you have no drug so to speak to keep you stabilized and it goes too far you must not allow it to go too far because if it gets that far gone you will be able to think clearly enough to pull it together I guess you could say and of course sometimes there's even entities involved and you go so far and then they grab you and not let you think clearly enough to bounce back so you know just be aware of

that and all sort of in a moment I'll address that you know again that this isn't just really always severe just even realizing that we all have moments where we think god I want out of here you know so please understand this isn't just always addressing severe examples but it's still worth you know hearing for everybody to be hearing so pain is another reason that's number three I think we covered so a fourth reason anxiety anxiety like the pain one anxiety can be so overwhelming I mean

you're just scared / anxious / manic / whatever else you want to fill in the blank with anxiety nervousness that and you know sometimes you might think well how does anxiety fit into this it doesn't feel good to have panic attacks so whether you've had them or somebody you know having him it does not feel good you feel out of control you feel crazy you feel like just itch everything's just berserk everything's just so intense inside and sometimes you will want to check out because you're

looking for relief and we must be clear suicide does not actually give relief it just doesn't it just doesn't and I guess I'll talk about that in just a second but it does not give you the painless nasai we're experiencing on earth you in a sense you take with you whether it's hate or whether it's love whether it's fear or whether it's joy you kind of feel it on the other side so you don't escape and if you could well then why doesn't everybody just do it let's all

escape all at once mass global suicide gone and we're all just in heaven the next minute not a chance it doesn't work that way so it's not recommended and it's recommended against because it's so contrary to what the human mind might think they're going to get from such a thing another one another category this is important because it has to do with secrets people how to suicide relate to secrets well sometimes people are living with secrets and they live with them for so long that eventually they just blow up inside the

secrets could be and the secrets are related to shame you know usually so it's like I I I'm living with the shame that I was abused as a child and and I can't take it anymore and it just blows up inside and I'm sorry you know that those things happen but trying to check out isn't gonna be a solution at all I'm not trying to just lecture you with its no you know suicide is no no solution I'm saying it cuz it's a fact it is absolutely not only is it not a solution it just causes you more

problems generally speaking and I'll try to address that a little bit more but shameful secrets you know like abuses like I said again sometimes it's financial loss I've known people that had had financial devastation investments that went poorly and they just felt so humiliated couldn't tell anyone and then one line one secret belt about another and another they just figured okay they're gonna find out so I have to go I have to get out of here and you know they check out another one unsupported pregnancies you know I

unsupported meaning a person gets pregnant a girl could be pregnant at whatever age 15-16 not want to tell her parents because they're gonna just go nuts and you know so on and so on there's just terror you know and I've known many the religions have shame them families have shame them that kind of secret yeah it really you know it blows up and they figure I'm just I have to get out of here and again oh my god I mean how could you wronged them for that because sometimes what they're experiencing on their fear of something

is so real to them there's almost there's no answer you could say well why don't you just run away well that's not great either I wanna thing run away we're become homeless how is that a great solution you know well isn't there somebody they could you know we could throw out answers like that but somebody who can take care of them but obviously if they thought that they would have maybe gone to that place so that's that's just a another really common example but also there's fear fear really not just shame

but fear related secrets you know what might happen things that you know believing something horrible is going to happen to them if you because of something you know they've gone through you know so they want to escape so there's their secrets it's just related to secrets and they can be shameful secrets or just fear-based secrets fear of the future god I mean there's people who have been just like afraid at the end of the world you know things like this and there's been individuals and mass suicides you know

and a category I'm not going to get into though is hate there's people that take lives of others and then take their own life because they're just feeling so angry but you know that's that's not even worth addressing because that's such a hurtful rude aggressive behavior it's not really worth addressing here because I would hope that none of you are that far gone into hate but certainly it's it's one that should be at least considered in the back of our minds as a full to add a full you know

perspective to this there's also of course chemical imbalances chemical imbalances you know it could break into all kinds of subcategories I mean both bipolar disorders psychotic episodes psychotic you know breakdowns neurological imbalances if your chemistry kind of control I mean your your soul is above your chemistry mind you it's above meaning a higher order of power and importance and so on but boy oh boy you know the chemistry in our body it can actually come across like it can can control like it is higher order than our

soul especially people aren't in touch with their soul but the body chemistry can make a difference and if the chemistry is off I mean a person can be going through diabetic scenarios that can go through adrenaline issues chemistry hormones being released into the system can set a person over the edge so not everything is about shame not everything is about depression sometimes there's literally just a chemical imbalance and a person does something and they didn't even know they were gonna do it but this chemistry

shifted you know an example would be the famous or infamous shooter as we might call him the guy who in Dallas went up unto a tower and was you know shooting people from a distance and all that and he seemed to buy some people's testimony seem normal up until this point why did he do it he ended up supposedly he had a brain tumor of some kind pressing on certain parts of his brain caused him to it just triggered him to go and do all this it wasn't actually like you know an angry person so there's an example not

of chemistry but of anatomy and/or physiology that was affecting this guy so that's just an example but sometimes there's just it's like saying it was an accident some people's suicides are an accident they're their chemical imbalances and you know it's hard to you know to override that because they usually wouldn't even know what's happening but if they do know all it takes is something going too far like I said when I started be careful because it all it takes is it goes too far and you don't

even know you thought you'd catch it when it goes too far and then you'll call somebody sometimes it goes way over along the line before you'll even know it and then it's too late ok the last category I'll talk about here is entities you may or may not believe in such things but you know entities can attach to a person they can oppress a person you know the big word is pose s you know to be demonically possessed entities can be just rude people that have passed on they're just rude entities they can be mischievous

entities they can be very dark entities the more hateful they were some never incarnated they were they were just dark spirits on the other side some are dark souls that are on the other side and just behaving very dark holy you know but they can a person being oppressed by an entity and so forth controlled by an entity they can you know they can get so I guess you can say just tired they can just get so tired of being confused I'll say tired and confused by these beings by these entities it happens and so

they're like oh my god you know they speak to me I don't want them talking to me make it stop and so yeah it does happen where entities play a role in you know causing someone to take their own life again none of these are you know none of these are fantastic but some are more like you know some are more like chemistry seeming like out of our control other times they're spiritual things like entities and you know the list goes on because some of these entities they like to harass people you know one of the tricks of entities is to

make us think that we are them they start to they attach and then we start to have thoughts and we think there are our thoughts but we're actually having their thoughts so that gets really really tricky because they're having dark thoughts about dying and they're making us think that it's our thoughts so this is another example of how something can happen and it's I don't know for lack of a better word it's almost like it's an accident so but it's being caused by malicious

malevolent beings so that does happen so you know just keep that in mind they you know they're obsessing on darkness can create some of our suicidal ideations so just keep that in mind so as I'm going to start going in towards the direction of wrapping up is there a cure well it depends on the category that we're talking about again I'm gonna emphasize reach out absolutely reach out you know work with people talk to people and don't try to you know endure these things alone I think that experts in the

mental health field you know they would say if a person's really committed to taking their life if if the chemistry or entities or depression or whatever category I talked about if any of these categories are causing them to really obsess on it or insist on doing it you can hospitalize them for a day a week or whatever they're if they really are committed to it they they're brought most of the time they're gonna find a way to do it there are exceptions and thank God you know but don't take it

personally if you can't stop them and taking it personally you're gonna be tempted to is selfish really I don't mean to sound rude but it's selfish because you're hurting yourself and you're making it about you they they did what they did it had nothing to do with you if they said I'm I'm really so depressed I'm gonna take my life and you say oh I don't really care go ahead you know would you like some aspirin you can OD on you know then you are responsible and you should feel bad because you did

something stupid but that's not what most of us would do so you have ninety-nine point something percent of the time you're wrong to think that you're responsible you should have seen it you how did I not know that these are things you're gonna ask yourself but it's almost most selfish to try to blame yourself just relax and accept it's sad but accept it this is what they did yeah I know you would have liked to have made a difference or stopped that but you didn't couldn't whatever so you know

what and also one reason people point their own the finger at themselves is because they don't know what else to do to fix it so by obsessing on what you could have done should have done it's it's it's almost like the people around you blame me you know how did you not know that's very selfish of them but that's their way of saying we don't know how we could have fixed that so we're gonna blame somebody so blaming obsessing these are all just unsuccessful ways of dealing with something that's kind of tragic and

people don't know you know what to do about it you know the most helpful thing we can do is learn the signs you know learn to hear what they're saying learn to see the signs if you see a person that seems depressed you can only do so much I mean you really you can't even if you even if they told you they were thinking about it and you could get them hospitalized if that were the case and you have proof they're gonna be released soon anyway so you can't totally fix them unfortunately but you

know it is helpful to you know to watch for science and take responsibility help out in any way you can just listen deeply you know to people and share good advice as best you can I remember when I first got to Sedona I live in Sedona and when I first got to Sedona there was a girl who came to me and she was wanting a session and I could tell that you know she was having a session because she was intrigued that's all not that she was gonna be able to really take my advice she was just intrigued not take the advice but

you know have a session and I could tell that she was depressed and I could tell that she just didn't she was just checked out oh well okay yeah that's great advice and so what do you think about this and just kind of very melancholy and so on and you know and I you know gave her feedback an advice but I could tell she was really too far gone and I anyway I was going on a tour and I went on a tour came back and the police had left me a message that this girl had left a letter and she took her life and and I felt

really bad for but I also felt bad for her husband who knew she had taken off because she did this now and again and tried this before and she had a kid child and you know and it was interesting one thing that was interesting is the police said you know in case you want to know there's this happened and and she left a note for her family and another one for you and I didn't even know her but she you know admired my work and came to see me you know sometimes they're looking when they do that to you or me they're

looking for permission they're looking for connection they're looking yeah they're looking for answers and maybe to talk them out of it but that's not usually the case they're usually looking for someone to say goodbye to someone to you know kind of use as their farewell recipient so don't take it too personally you know and I didn't and I understood it and still it was bummer you know it was a bummer but you know one of the interesting things I'll say is when I went to get the letter I went

to the counter at the police station and it was interesting because they just go okay well here it is they handed it to me and there was one of the police officers was a female she was a little bit further back in the office and she was walking by and I just looked up and saw her you know and she turned and looked at me and she said I'm very sorry he was so interesting because just that was it was such a beautiful thing that a human being took a moment to say to who she thought might have been an important

person in the person's life which I wasn't but that kind of kindness is really really helpful so you know let's do that for each other and to each other to kind of help each other with these kinds of things it's not just the person who passed away that's struggling it's the people left behind and both have their own little lessons the ones who passed away and the ones who are left behind there's all kinds of lessons so let's learn how our lessons so again now wrapping up some of you were going to

ask by the way what happens to the soul who chooses to take their own life that is a very because I just scared seven reasons that they do it may have primary reasons and I don't know how much you're gonna find typical therapist psychologist the world of psychology agreeing with my seven nor do I care if they agree with it these are the seven main reasons I would imagine that they would agree with most of them I don't think they believe often in entities so they may not agree with that one but I

don't care because the entities exist and it's one of the reasons so I'm not going to negate the mental health field I'm just gonna say that you probably would find maybe more clinical feedback there in case you want more of that but why you know what happens to this whole it depends on what caused them to do this it was one of those chemical imbalances and it was just sort of an accident I think it was a lessons involved and they're gone they're gonna be okay and yet someone who does it with

hate and selfishness completely different experience on the other side but do not think for a minute that it's always one thing or another all people that commit suicide find peaceful loving family members on the other side to escort them into heaven oh and or the opposite all suicides go to hell no it's not true although there is a hell-like state that some humans go to on the other side for a while does happen for some but people that commit suicide are already sometimes living in hell so they don't

get rushed off to some negative place that formerly that church is used to tell us you know is where people go suicides are not permitted to be buried in a you know traditional or acceptable great you know grave or grave yard and you know it's really horrible the way things like this were dealt with in the past but you know that's that so it really depends on the mindset of the person who's taking their life for some people it's all that they knew to do it is it's all that they knew to do I've had times in my life and I

thought God I just want to go you know and and for me probably there's been moments where I felt overwhelmed there's times I felt lost I mean there's there's you know for me it's probably been a couple of those categories that covered I would imagine you know over my lifetime and I don't feel any shame about ever that having thought it seems quite normal that I think probably most if not all human beings have a moment where it's like oh my god you know just take me now because it's just those reasons I said

overwhelm depression and whatever else but you know where we go afterwards it depends on the lessons and what our reasons were for doing what we did you know but it's definitely not true that it's honky-dory on the other side for all of them depends on what they were dealing with if a person was really struggling with pain of a psychological nature though a lot of times the pain passes with them because they're if they're in pain here they often pass over and the pains with them on the other side meaning they'll have still

some painful stuff on the other side because let's say let's say you had a situation where someone left you and you were just upset you take your life well on the other side they're not going well we totally get it because you love wonderful wonderful person no they're gonna say who cares somebody left you it's not enough reason for you to have taken your life life is a huge thing and you're talking about romance you're comparing romance with life someone broke a romance you took your

life no and you're gonna have some lessons I'm not saying you're going to hell I'm just saying they're gonna send you back with more of the same because you must come to understand that no human being has such importance in your life so you come back and have to learn those lessons so it varies so much that it's hard to just say what happens to the soul but I will say this if someone takes their own life and they're experiencing some pain about that on the other side and and you're upset still

here essentially they've dragged you into that hell with them that's not to your job you know it's it's nothing nothing is unforgivable I don't care what anybody else says about it nothing is beyond redemption or beyond healing miracles are for the purpose of shifting things that seem impossible to shift so nothing is unforgivable so somebody takes your unlock for whatever reason any reason selfish to them you know Chemical Mouse whatever it's not unforgivable our job is to try to bring them that forgiveness so what

we couldn't give them some sort of healing or peace we couldn't give them here when they were here and looking for help we can give them even when they go to the other side so please remember pray for souls that are especially if they've taken their lives pray for them pray knowing that they're finding peace and they will find peace on the other side and not have to likely come back and do such a painful experience again you know so allow a person you know who chose you know suicide for example don't

let them [ __ ] your existence today they've passed over and you're like oh I should have helped him I shut it on this plus the loss is it terrible but do not let it [ __ ] you do not let it paralyze you because then you're stuck in the same mindset that there's again you know your key you're keeping them in the dark you could say they're looking for light and your pain over this is keeping them in the dark so don't you know pray and get it pray with an attitude that they're getting it

there they're hearing my prayers they're feeling my prayers I'm sending the prayers and I'm visualizing them in that formerly dark space unraveling the darkness and coming to light having an AHA you know so we're bringing them the miracle even though they're on the other side so bounce back and bring them with you they've taken their life you're in pain you're sad you're feeling whatever you need to bounce back and take them with you that's the ticket I hope that makes sense and again it's a

challenging topic I covered the essentials and the questions that I think some of you wrote in to me over the years but also somebody who asked just recently and I do my best to watch for these questions and my team members send me these questions and forward them to me and I try to remember them and print them out because if I rely on just my memory I you know have popped and you're not gonna remember so I try to print these things out and address them as best I can so thanks for trusting me to do that know that I can't always

unfortunately pull that off but I do what I can okay but my prayers are with you and if you've lost somebody in the forum that I've talked about today do your Wester to bring them home you know pray them into a healthy life okay god bless you all and just a couple of closing things remember you got Sunday services every Sunday we present those around 10 o'clock Arizona time we also have there are exceptions to the rule when I'm on tour but there's those and then I have my Wednesday classes every

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