Forgiveness Versus Judgment

want to focus on the concepts of love and forgiveness but also a judgment they the opposite of forgiveness there's a lot of really misunderstood and missile I teachings and concepts around this thing we call forgiveness and even around judgment if you don't understand judgment you're not gonna really understand forgiveness but as usual what I like to do is you know kind of clear the air on some of these topics so keep in mind there are different perspectives mm-hmm you'll hear somebody talking

about yeah I'm working on forgiveness and their perspective remember anything that you do to forgive is better than nothing so don't wronged anybody and though I'm bless you over there I'm clearing the air a bit on these topics forgiveness and judgment doesn't mean I'm suggesting that you in any way shame or wronged somebody that's applying it because any form of forgiveness is great agree it's fine it doesn't mean they're all accurate it doesn't even mean that they're all thoroughly effective but at

least they're doing something now if you can find that there's room to plant a seed about little further understanding then great that would be great if they're open to that but really be careful you have to navigate that's called love to care enough about people to be tactful and navigate instead of preaching however there are people that will say things like oh yeah I had this issue with so-and-so but I forgiving them and almost never is that true almost almost never is that true like really because this about is about the

hundredth time you've told me that you've thoroughly forgiven them one of the symptoms of knowing that forgiveness has happened is you don't talk about it as much but stuffing it and not talking about it is also not forgiveness you follow there's I'm saying that people will say I've forgiven but they keep talking about it but so you say well then I have forgiven because I don't talk about it no because stuffing it isn't helping either go ahead and bring it out and and even if it takes a

hundred times because we don't want to shame somebody that it's been a hundred but are you making any progress is it the same exact speech 100 times later then there's something that may be missed so you might tactfully say wow yeah you know I've heard you talk about before which is a hint you know but then you might add you know man this must have really hurt you cuz you know I've heard you talk about that before hint and then but it must have really hurt you know how is it going with that oh

I'm totally forgiven totally really and you have to tactfully find a way to say but how's it feel you you don't even have to tell them that they're not making progress you can say how do you feel different now than when at first when you first had the courage to bring it up see the tactile list of that I mean there's good tech - of that you know try to listen to that because um you know you're holding back a lot you'd like to say which is like geez seriously we're talking about this again but

sometimes it's it's normal like I'm a teacher so I might share an example of something that I struggled with years ago then I might bring it up in a talk again ten years later doesn't mean I'm obsessed on it it's a conversation that happens to fit so just because you bring something up doesn't confirm your unhealed it's more the vibe of it that you're not making progress that you haven't shed the tears or haven't had a a sigh at any moment that you're just pretending you're over it or

just saying the word so we have to really understand what forgiveness is but judgment people still don't even got that they still don't have that one down some people will say I'm not judging I'm not feeling any emotion at all about it that confirms that I'm not judging no that does you can just be cold there there's a personality disorders that you know that don't have any emotion going along with what they're saying it doesn't mean you know they're holy so judgment isn't going to be determined by

what most people think like they'll say as long as you don't feel anything emotionally a charge not necessarily that's a little bit of a sign yeah I would go with that but it's not a guarantee I've known I've watched couples argue in couples counseling and one of them seems to be animated and emotional and the other goes I'm not having any issues look how emotional they are you know and if you go by that then there are certain genders that would be considered perfect see I don't

even have to name them right and there are some that are totally messed up and it doesn't work it's it's not accurate so experience right so what we're looking for is have you ever even looked at these things that's a good sign when you see transparency and vulnerability when somebody's you know you say to somebody issues about let's say your parents I don't even want to think about it because I'm healed and forgiven you know that's that's not really so have you ever talked about that have you ever

processed that and I'll tell you man because there's times when you first work on stuff and you're gonna go through feeling like a child again sometimes if your wounds happened in childhood that that's not bad nor good it's just amazing because you're processing back through biological and psychological and neurological memories of when you were wounded so you're sort of regressed but not really because regressed means you're dragged back and and start reacting as though you're

still being offended or wounded you'll know you're healing when you can bring that stuff to the present even though crying presently or screaming in a pillow presently there's a difference because you're bringing it to now that's past stuff you're bringing it to now and processing it as long as you're processing it with safety and clarity and communication maturity responsibility you're probably doing a good job and then there's still those times when you're working on collective

level issues collective wounds like mankind's loneliness might mankind sadness there are things that I have worked on personally and then when I come up here and there's a few times probably in the last many years it's happened a few times where I go and I just start talking or at a class of mine I just bring something up and boom a whole new wave of emotion happens and I think that's strange because I've worked on this or that it's great when you've worked on stuff yourself and then the second level would

be with a counselor or save others when then you are standing in front of everybody and the subject comes up again it's a whole new level of cleansing because I don't just feel my feelings when you see occasionally like I've choked up to talk about something I'm not just actually feeling my experience all though that can't happen and has happened I actually feel everybody in the room and online watching and then I feel this big it like enormous wave it's a weirdest thing and I could say

wait no not allowed they're doing a talk but then I would deny myself the ability to heal not only my but our weren't stuff within me and I would also deny us from processing as well what kind of teacher do you want to be hold on I'm choking up hey everybody knock it off don't be sending emotions this way you know that's not what we want to do with it's like but it's a really challenging thing but just as it's challenging for a teacher to show that level of vulnerability that's also how we all

feel at different times in our process I've known people that would not if their life depended on it they go to counselors and they will not talk about certain topics and I'm like well you're kidding me why do you pay them why do you even go it's like you're gonna put parameters on subject matters and I understand if that's what you need to do fine it's better than nothing but I just think man like let's just go let's just let's just share let's just open up so people get a little bit

caught and afraid to be thinking that you're judging when somebody says not only the stoic I have no emotion that proves I'm not judging there's also people that will say things like well I'm just discerning you know good so I'm not judging I'm just discerning it's just a fact so there's no judgment to it so let's make it clear the easiest way to know if you're judging here's what it is you are always judging now we're done see now everybody just has to own that

now if you want to deny that and you're gonna just limit your ability to heal everybody is always judging how do I know that because you are seeing a world that isn't there and you're assuming it's there which means you're judging that it exists and you're wrong that would be judgment you're seeing a world that's bigger badder you're aging you know you can't age your God you can't age you're judging yourself now when I say judge you think I mean anger judgments anger judgments are only

one facet of judgments guys do you understand you remember because people are gonna say I'm not angry I'm not judging you can tell I'm not angry that doesn't mean you're not judging there's times when I can say well I wish something would have happened for me that happened for somebody else and says well somebody won the lottery and I did you're bummed that's still a judgment and I don't hate them for winning that's hate judgment that's one type maybe you're not feeling

hate judgment you're still judging why because you actually believed that you were incapable of manifesting the lottery there's something you're mad at yourself for not manifesting you're mad that they're manifesting or you're having beliefs that you don't deserve someone Hills an illness and you don't there's a part of you that didn't believe you could heal it and that's not bad something's gonna kill you it's all right it's all right that you died of

something if you're not you know what white why obsess on fixing the body just accept and the more we learn to accept then there's less chance of judgment because accept means I would like to think it's this way which is just judgment because you think something would be better if if I won the lottery or if I healed my disease I would be better off that is an opinion that's a judgment I do not know starts leading you towards non judgment and then there's those people who say you know their techniques of proving that they're

not judging they're all still the same everybody has a judgment of some kind because we believe we're here and we're not we believe we separated from God do you know that the world would have never manifested had we not judged ourselves for believing that we're separate from God it's not that we thought what would life be like to be separate it's that we judged ourselves for it that condemned us to a life of limitation every wrinkle every gray hair every ache every broken relationship every bill you couldn't pay

they're all symptoms of judging ourselves as being less than holy that's what it all comes down to I don't have those judgments you mean you don't consciously own that you have those judgments you still have them and it's okay see because we're afraid to admit that we have those judgments so we try to send judgment as just anger judgments then try to look calm and affirm that we have no judgments at all first of all proving that you're calm didn't mean you're not judgement having

anger judgments but even if you're not the anger is only one type of judgment the most important judgment is that we defined we decided that we are less than holy we decided that we're no longer made in God's image and if you don't agree with me look in the mirror because every wrinkle that's there today that wasn't there 10 years ago is a sign there are alternate versions of stress lines and you're under stress because you're in a place you cannot be it's very stressful to be delusional you know

if we if we accept that we're one with God there's a peace that surpasses understanding we have to actually work hard to believe we're still here because the grace of God is so perfectly infinitely powerful you really have to work hard to counter it and you can't even counter it forever so it's gonna win because it's infinitely powerful but in the meantime we're working working hard to fight it and it causes us stress lines it kills us and then we come back and try again but at the end of the day

we all have to learn to get to this place to say I don't know seems like I'm getting older isn't this funny because I'm an infinite being so we just kind of allow in other words acceptance is a way to counter our judgments on ourselves it's easy to get all I shouldn't be thinking this but I am wow isn't that funny I'm a being created in God's image isn't this weird that you know as soon as I see a minus sign in my checkbook I want to die and yet I'm made in God's image this

doesn't make any sense at all so we learn to start easing first owning that we judge and then easing the impact it has had on us and when we start to ease the impact we start to find that something was there all along judgment isn't replaced by love and forgiveness when you ease up on the judgment love starts to emerge it's already sitting there judgment keeps us from seeing it and one of the trickiest parts to dealing with judgment is that anything that is a problem in our lives again illness or whatever it happens to be

everything is keeping us all forms of judgment are keeping us from experience though experiencing those good things so you can say well my issue is a sore a sore ankle or a sore shoulder my issues of a bill like campaign whatever it happens to be stress in a relationship everything that is seemingly unholy is hiding behind it a judgment of some kind generally speaking the judgment we have placed on ourselves and others that we or they are less than holy how do you then cure it well let me fix it externally no it's owning that this is

concealing a judgment that's why the Hawaiian ho oponopono prayer is saying hold it I'm sorry I really really love you please forgive me for your being sick why does that prayer and then saying thank you why does that prayer get applied to anything anything and everything on this planet because it's telling you the truth if I perceive any crisis it's showing me my participation that judging that created the limitation in that person's illness or whatever it happens to be I have nothing to do with

it I didn't make them sick see that's defending really broken shallow people have to defend like that because it means I can't I cannot own any responsibility in anything because I'm so scared of the truth so they jump to defense all the time that only means that you're confirming that you're afraid you're going to be punished for some sort of judgment you can't be because the judgments are only miss person's misperceptions when you say you judge something you're not really

judging something truly the whole point is when you judge you're actually judging things untruly you're saying something is not divine so New Agers are gonna say do you know what this really means to it to forgive and so forth they're gonna say it's when you do see things happen like war and rape and you say well I'm just not going to judge it see now that looks cool that kind of looks like it makes sense yes events still happen but I just don't judge judge them you're creating a distance between you and them washing

your hands of it saying well stuff happens I just don't judge it then they'll say you know because God is good and evil God is everything God is loved but God is also war and they're completely wrong because humans don't want to understand that God is but love that something can actually be perfect humans are always waiting for the other shoe to drop you know they're looking for a yeah god is love but God is also hate because God is everything and it makes sense logically it's just not rational God is but love

and were made in its image so anytime that we're not seeing and feeling love it means somewhere somehow we have misperceived and judged ourselves or someone else you don't have to know where you judge them you don't have to say okay this is probably back let's see ancient Babylon 1,500 years BC I remember that very moment somebody threw an apple at me and now it's my waitress who threw applesauce on me and we're just repeating the whole thing again you don't have to detail things like that

all you have to do is own if I'm not experiencing perfect peace something must have gone wrong that something is happening in here so I'm going to surrender that and ask it to be replaced with love that's what forgiveness is it's a choice to let go of judgments that's all it is forgiveness doesn't exist in heaven because there's no judgments in heaven forgiveness is applied here in the asylum of life where we have judged people as being less than they really are well it is so we have

people in our lives that seem to be naughty seem to be hurtful you are not asked to pretend that it's not happening you're not asked to you know somebody throws a comment a judgement on you are a gossip or an apple at you or whatever you're not asked to that did not happen you know that doesn't make any sense but you are asked to acknowledge it and then ask if it's a possibility to see it differently to feel differently about it like Buddha when somebody threw a rock at him and they said you're the Buddha why would

anybody throw a rock at you he says well there's things we've done in life times and all this stuff just comes back around your main goal is to not react to it so you don't set it back in motion again he didn't deny that it happened and he didn't deny that he'd never played a part he just said well you know there's times and I made mistakes in other lifetimes and it all comes around but he didn't go and specify and he didn't you know ad nauseam make it a point to everybody has to track down the

exact moment if anything at all when you do tracking of the past you're looking for themes and those themes are telling us about belief systems whose hours so whatever people may think or say or do to us or towards us or add us they're really lessons that we're supposed to be learning because there's only two things really there's there's the the main thing which is we think we have to learn lessons these things come to us because we think we need to learn lessons and so when people are attacking us you know

it's not that it confirms your bad Jesus had people attacking him but Jesus had lifetimes as well previous lifetimes and you just saw like booty just so this is stuff coming around and I don't care because if it's from the past guess what the past doesn't exist other than in our wounds and our you know remembering the past so we keep the past coming up in the present which prevents us from experience the miracle in the present releasing the past in the future instead people are on sort of on edge

constantly knowing you know what's coming and if we take responsibility and that's the thing we if you're going to practice forgiveness it means before you can get to forgiveness taking responsibility so underneath all this there's there's something going on you know and even Jesus is saying in A Course in Miracles when someone is misbehaving and they're acting up you don't just say well it's not happening he says however know that if people being rude they are coming from their

ego got that they're coming from their ego he says it he doesn't say pretend it doesn't happen if they're being rude they're coming from their ego and he adds and if they're coming from their ego they are always wrong meaning they're not coming from God therefore it's not true and real and light and correct they're coming from their ego what that means because even that can sound like you're judging the ego it means that when you're when a person's coming from their ego they're coming

from a part that is fear not true it's fear because everything is going to be true or feared that it's not true it's not true and false that's not the duality of life it's true and a fear that it's not true so when people are coming from their ego they're coming from fear fear doesn't mean it's true does it does it ghosts under your bed goblins under your bed doesn't mean it's true so just because you you act out of fear so I'm I'm mad I'm feeling insecure

it doesn't mean I really am insecure because if I'm into my god-self that's gone I'm only afraid that I'm out of touch with who I am and now I'm feeling insecure so now I'm so insecure I lash out at you technically what's making that happen is it really I am lashing out at you logically that's what our eyes tell us but spiritually what's really happening is I'm coming from a fearful place which means I'm not coming from my real self and I'm lashing out at

you and that's not the real you that can be lashed out on which means it's only my fears attacking your fears which means these things are not real they have no real power so when we see them and start releasing them Jesus saying when people are coming from their ego they're always wrong they're not coming from their real selves they're coming from their false selves so what should you do about it and he's saying everything's love or a call for love now again does that mean I enable it no no

no you just first see it for what it is this person they're getting on my case and they just won't stop okay wait remember this is a real great way to dispel at all disperse it all is it's a test this person is test me to leave my spiritual center shift into my ego self-centeredness my ego centeredness out of God's center to ego Center which isn't centered at all but it's ego centric and then in and get pulled into their ego so when somebody wants to do something to hurt you even if they're a molesting or raping or

causing Wars they're not in their God's self clearly they're in their ego center or egocentricity then they're tempting other people to shift into theirs when Hitler goes before the people and he starts preaching fear and hatred towards races towards the world he's in his ego self you can call it even a demon but he shifts into his ego self and he starts spouting when he does everybody in the audience could laugh and say wow what a nut you know he's a good comedian and we're better than them but God this

guy's funny that's what they could have done but instead his fear-based spouting shifted them and put them in fear they started going along with what he's saying you follow they shifted into their egocentricity and now we had a group of egos trying to attack people or the world and that's what's happening it sounds like you go yeah that makes sense you know Hitler did that and this is your ex this is you in a bad mood this is everybody in anybody they're all testing each other can I pull you off

center not a chance man I am so centered I did my Course in Miracles workbook today and I went to unity and you know right and then you get to the granola store to buy your organic stuff because you started the day with the course and then you went and you did your unity in sort of then you went and got only only organic love fed chicken feed something or other that you and now you're nibbling on the love fed you know hand-picked right rice molecules or whatever it is and you're all and then you get up there and you're like you

know you bless each Omani probably whom owe money button and you're doing this all money upon me YUM and you're having your stuff dipped in hummus you know and then you get up and you get up in the line and someone cuts you up big fat jerk you know you're feeling this you know your own lowly right every every human being goes through that it doesn't matter if it's Jesus because Jesus had it happened and he responded back off get behind me Satan when Judas is going to betray him Judas said get out

Jesus said get out he didn't hate him he just said dude I'm paraphrasing but he said he's like you know Judas come on let's just be real you know you what what do you mean what me know I was just sitting here enjoying the talk Judas you have people waiting for you you're you're turning me in to the authorities to have me killed or to have something happen that you'd like to see happen or whatever just go and do it like don't pretend you're not and that's when you and I can say to Partners look this is

not even real we're not even really getting it let's just be done and people say well that that's judging you can just tell the truth without being in a place of judgment you're you're all judging we're all judging anyway in the big sense we're here we're judging that we're not holy enough to be with God so we're on a planet learning lessons in case you don't know it there's nothing to learn if you're one with God you what are you gonna be God plus there's no no

there's no new and improved God thank God that God made us to come here and learn how to fight for every inch of life and and stability and sanity now when we go home we'll be able to add to God's awareness having gone through this it doesn't make any sense we don't know how to just accept that there is but love and perfection in God that it already is perfect it's not being improved people say this popular popular teachers aren't selling you books you people keep buying and telling

you things like you know God is improving itself by sending you out like little satellites in the universe so that you can you know bump your elbow and bruise it and go see now God knows what it's like to bump an elbow God doesn't need that God doesn't need any of these bizarre improvements because there's nothing improved we're learning lessons to the point where we will eventually get to say none of that was it necessary at all and since it'll be in the seeming past we'll pass it off

like it's nothing and it won't exist as soon as something's past it's no longer so when we look back at life we're not going to say yeah man we really brought home some knowledge for God without us God would not have known what a mollusc is you know and what pollution is thanks to us God now knows what pollution is air pollution noise pollution none of this makes sense when we get home we're gonna realize we dreamt that there was anything outside of love and we're going to decide we're gonna judge not to keep

it anymore and that's called the Last Judgment when we decide discern and judge that we no longer want judgment then judgment is gone the Last Judgment isn't the day that God's wrath hits mankind it's the day man's laugh comes back and we say man this was just a joke but it's easy to say Hitler did and we see it but it's the same with all of the people in our lives they're always testing and there's a reason it's because their misery people don't push you to the limit when

they're in their state of peace it's cuz they're miserable so what we're supposed to do is ask ourselves how can we help this person feel peace today love today heard today seen today how can we help people feel valued instead of afraid so when they push you and try to pull you out of God Center into ego self the best thing you can do is to say no see it and say no now if you don't and you spin off into the craziness with them nobody's saying there's no Savior in the room and the word Savior is the right

word because you're saving people from their ego self and if you save them from the ego self the odds are we now have another option the only other option the God or Christ self and that's a good thing and I'm not saying you're the Savior like suddenly like oh look at me I'm gonna get a t-shirt with an S because I'm Savior supersaver Savior on the planet you know like some some Marvel comic kind of hero it's just that you you are but we're all saviors when people say we're all teachers and

students that's partly true and partly not but we are in fact all saviors it's not just going to be the one at the podium that's teaching others how to find salvation or Jesus historically if we cannot see the light in every single being then you yourself are not saved yet you might have had little moments of being saved clarity insights forgiveness and so on but you cannot be truly truly saved people say I've been saved you know I went down to the river and somebody baptized me so I've been saved

but yet they behaved no differently to be saved means ultimately even if you go down to the river and somebody baptize you and you say I'm giving up addiction good good job so what you experienced was a moment a taste of what it's like to be saved you're saved from something called addiction that made you think you were less than you were now you love yourself more it's loving yourself more that made you a Savior but to yourself now the question is like in an AAA program are you bringing it to other

people preaching no it's okay teach preach to do what you want to do but unless you're able to see goodness and other people there's no such thing as a savior actually happening the Savior actually gets it it's not like by rote it's not like just some behavior or some something you don't have some ritual it's you actually get it so when you're watching a talk like this you're hearing a talk like this ask yourselves am i any more forgiving than I used to be am i any less judgmental if all you did was

shift old school judgments into new age judgments it didn't really help you just changed the wording am I actually doing this more often okay that's okay I'd like to see this differently maybe there's another way of saying this am I willing to shift out of fear reaction kind of mode you know do I catch myself I'm not asking you how you fix other people are you also different yourself less less and less you know fear-based and again people are gonna push your buttons so ask yourself how soon you catch that catch on and how

soon you bounce back it's okay because you're on this planet people are gonna push and pull they did it to Jesus they're gonna do it to you but do you catch it or do you still acquiesce and give in and you know God there's I remember moments when I was a kid when I was thinking okay I'm really gonna hang in here I'm gonna just really get this right and then oh my god it's like they fly in under the radar just one ridiculous comment from somebody a parent or whatever and you jump back to

reacting and then I'm thinking to myself geez you know good one you know they slipped in there and now I gotta kind of bounce back and you're gonna feel guilty in a shame that's that's the ego trying to now make you feel bad for slipping forgive yourself because that's another test so when we look at the world we have to be able to say to ourselves right now I see trees and a sky and the Sun rises then it falls and it's all seemingly beautiful but believe it or not behind the Sun the Moon the Stars

behind the blue sky behind the tree behind every person there is the presence of love it's the consciousness of the holy spirit waiting to be unfrozen because when you and I pin down somebody and say you know you're you're tempting me to be upset you're attacking or whatever or a partner that's cheating or whatever they do in this world you know all the stuff that we do when those things are happening it's important to catch this and say they're actually mirroring things that I believe I need to learn on

some level now sometimes they're mirroring your own stuff if I have let's say low self-worth I can have somebody manifest rejecting me so they're mirroring lessens do you follow but other times it's not so specific sometimes it's just the actual lesson of pulling me off center no matter what it is it's still my responsibility not to succumb to falling off center or shifting out of Center so we look at the world and be able to say learn to be able to say here's what I think I see is

happening don't deny it somebody seems to be attacked if somebody seems to be rejecting somebody go ahead and acknowledge that but then realize they're assigned and that's where it gets challenged for us they're assigned by assigned it doesn't mean you literally consciously said Heavenly Father mother God angels Archangels and beings of higher dimensions I want you to do me a favor and help me manifest a jerk today you know you know somebody to reject me and abused me that's so linear guys that's so literal

of course you probably didn't literally ask I would like to have a winning lottery ticket with which family members come and steal it from me you probably aren't asking for that you don't have to be asking literal what's happening is if I have unresolved low self-worth that I don't see or even if I'm aware of it and I still just have pieces that I need to work on just my own doubt in my frequency is enough to attract someone to come in and do such things if I hate them for it then what I'm saying is I'm

mad at you for confirming that I was so easily pulled out of my Center see I'm not just mad at you for stealing my lottery money or whatever I'm mad because because he the only part that in me that can feel threatened is the part that thinks that I could be ripped off you follow the part that's mad is the part that can think it can be ripped off so when you react to people you're confirming that you are the little thing that they can attack now soak that in when you react you're confirming that

you are in fact the little thing that they can attack you're not the glorious thing they can't attack so you said yes when they said I'm going to test you are you an ego or are you a holy being and you you're saying I'm an ego when you react when you don't react or when you react somehow and I'm not talking about just externally internally when I choose to interpret your actions from a different holy place unconsciously I am teaching you I am a holy being and it can be partly the words I used it can

partly be the way I said it a lot of people will read A Course in Miracles with the Bible and they'll hear Jesus say certain things that are very firm but I love when I've heard people say but you know what it still feels loving even when he says knock it off I don't feel judged and that's really a unique way of hearing and feeling that vibe from him because it's easy to say so he's judging me too but instead Wow can I be firmly spoken to just because I'm not getting something or I'm acting out of sorts

it's okay and it can come from love so keep in mind that with all these tests and all these things you know these are theirs all too often people are being assigned roles you want to get annoyed at them but you're the one who signed them up for that position I'm feeling a little low self-worth today on some subconscious level mind you feeling low self-worth god I'm almost the type that you know should be betrayed because I have such low self-worth subconsciously we're saying now hiring a great betrayer and then

I'll be one of those you know somebody's out there going oh I love that I dig betraying people because I have low self-worth enough I love stomping on other people it makes me feel pseudo repaired which I'm not really repair it makes me get a false feeling of being better so they come along stop you and then we get upset it how dare you and so on then you think forgiveness is going to be I'm just not going to think about them anymore that did not cure it that did not heal it forgiveness didn't happen forgiveness

takes responsibility even if it's a slight amount to say I must have played a part here man I don't like thinking I played a part but I'm pretty sure I did because I'm pretty sure I was there I'm pretty sure I was a participant so I must have played some sort of part here and so we learned I'm not going to defend I'm not going to deny and I'm not going to defend I'm gonna stop and say what's really going on here clearly this doesn't feel like the presence of God how can I bring in the

presence of God who you ask in your head no ask the Spirit of God how can i what would you have me do today in this moment what would you have me do there's times when I've watched people bickering and arguing and just one split second what what would you have me do it's partly rhetorical because but you should ask but you ask so that it then triggers that you're gonna channel the answer and when the answer comes it's pretty amazing but typically for me two people are arguing away and all of a sudden

it'll come to me a way to validate what the person is saying and then all of a sudden the tension in the moment changes and I know that we've just channeled the Holy Spirit into the room it doesn't mean fixing externally the way people think it's almost like you you brought in here's water and you brought in the the water was a certain tone and you brought in something that clears the water like a purifier or you colored the water here comes a little you know purple drop of coloration and now the water takes of a

different vibe one drop of food coloring can change the tone the vibe the look of the water and it's the same with people's emotions I I just I heard what you were saying you're never asked per se to have to agree with them in personal examples you know I say all the time guys you can say no to something it's all the judgment even being here but then there's micro adjustments while we're here a micro judgements while we're here and so you can make healthier opinions and discernments and truths and

judgments in a healthier sense less intense less angry you can make adjustments even while here so for example if one of you comes up and kicks me and then you're going to do it again I say don't even if I step back it's not gonna happen again now technically we could say I judged myself as a limited human body that feels pain when you kick therefore I need to protect my limited human ego self by not being kicked again you see that ultimately I if I'm a spiritual being you couldn't even kick me I would

be transparent so I must be succumbing a little bit here to be a person to be kicked however in this illusion I accept that I believe I'm a body so I'm gonna do the next best thing instead of just turning into spirit and you're not having anything to kick which I would love to be able to do but since I'm not there today I'm going to say don't it's my best human way of saying because I love myself and love you you'll not be doing that again it's the best I can do while accepting that I'm

seemingly temporarily a seemingly limited to human saying no can be a statement of love now if I say don't you do that because you're a jerk and I'm an innocent victim that's not a healthy place to be coming from so instead you'll learn to say no one who's saying no or saying yes and that's setting healthy boundaries but in my life I had a child before that was being very abusive to people around those family members and one day I finally said I'm not talking to you anymore until you can

come from a different place I didn't talk to her for years there's nobody on this planet I've ever known that I wouldn't be able to say goodbye to nobody in terms of ego behaviors and code dependencies nobody is so important that I would let abuse come first say no I've had friends where I said okay Trent you know we're supposed to you know agree on transparency and and and honesty with each other and they slip out of that place and I say you know watch out for that okay I will and then

it happens again and again and again and again there's a point where I just said okay since that's happening that's not gonna work you're allowed to discern what will work for you and not work for you and come from the most healthy place you can don't judge the other people as being bad hey your Integrity's don't match mine you're bad that's judgment still that's still even in this plane and you know a magnification of more and more judgment instead do the best you can to say I'm telling you what works

for me do you see no matter what we're on this planet there's going to be a theme of judgment but you can improve upon them clean them up until eventually they'll start disappearing but for now here's what works for me so I told this you know more than one friend but I've said this is this is the rules can you do that well they can say well no I like to keep secrets and whatever great you should find some friends that like that I just wouldn't be one of them see you later done there's there's nobody that I would

say could be for me would be immune from that it's like there's just you know just like Jesus said Judas this is what you're going to do go ahead and go you guys without hurting and hating and judging them without thinking you're better than them cut them loose it's okay if you cut them loose with an attitude that you're better they will come back in a different form you'll just have another one like them bringing the same lessons but are you willing to get the lessons that's taking

responsibility so there are false forms of forgiveness everybody here in this room everybody listening this program we've all practiced false false forms like oh I'm over it that doesn't mean you're actually you've actually accomplished forgiveness there's even people that say well I guess I should forgive because that that's what God would want me to do that's still not forgiveness there's all kinds of false forms of forgiveness but better than nothing but they're false forms they're limited

forms then somebody is going to say what is the ultimate level of forgiveness and some people say compassion and and it's it's close its close but it doesn't really reach the highest level because compassion is like I'm gonna take all of your hurts or even your misgivings or misdeeds I'm gonna bring them into my heart of love very Buddhist kinds of techniques and I'm gonna transform them in my heart of compassion it's absolutely beautiful far better than I'm gonna forgive because my religion says

so my mom told me I have to and so those are not real compassion oh dude you know it's just wonderful you you know you have gongs now I forgiving you know gong and heart of compassion visualizations and energetic shifts and it's really cool there's one problem with compassionate forgiveness it still implies you did something that I'm compassionate enough to forgive you for you see that you see that snuck under the radar for people now do it do it cuz that's what people believe in it's fine

if that's your level of forgiveness but there's one more for the brave of heart if you're not ready to hear this plug your ears okay the the highest level of forgiveness is to forgive the way God forgives which is to recognize it is impossible for you to harm me in any way even when you take action on me it has no standing effect how could it I am God so all you're doing is is spitting in the wind you're barking at the moon it has no power you're you know the bar the dog barking at them doesn't affect the

moon and so when we really know who we are people do not have the power the wherewithal anything to really truly affect us right right it's the truth you're immune and it doesn't mean you should jump to that level if you're still way down the scale barely able oh my god I just hate what they've done you should only work on forgiveness at that level don't go transmuting it never happened don't don't jump to that level don't jump to a level beyond you because it'll be insincere if you need to even if you

know how to get to the compassionate level and the spiritual level if right now you're hurt just go ahead and be angry I'd rather see you start and the humanistic level screaming into a pillow blankety-blank blankety-blank you know cuss words if you must because that's how I feel right now now that I got that out I'm willing to take this to a higher level you see that means it's a little more somatic it's body centered it's real it's how I felt I'm just not choosing to hang on to that

how I felt forever least of all through somebody that I I don't need to let them have this kind of an effect in me so there's times when I've dealt with people you know here in unity of Sedona and they asked me about forgiveness and things like that or people in this town they tend to gossip and that sort of thing when I say stand up to people like that I'm not telling you to stand up just like for me I'm asking you to learn to do that for yourselves learn to say no to things so when I'm telling you you know speak up

I'm trying to get human beings to not just well let's see when love is happening we're loving when anger is happening we start to shrink that's your version of spirituality when stuff is happening we shrink because we don't want to be judgmental you know yeah a friend of mine was saying all these really gross disgusting things about another friend of mine but I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to judge I just said well it sounds like you know that's your opinion

step up step up say who's speaking right now and they're going on towards another friend step in between go wait what is this like you're walking on the sea that's tossing and the Apostles are on the boat help us help us Lord you're supposed to be the Lord step out there what's going on oh they're this and they're anger and hate and anger and hate there's racial hates there's racial reactions to hate it all this stuff that goes on in this world somebody step up sometimes step up very calmly how's it

going and that's what needs to be done you're still taking it to the goal of clarity but sometimes softly other times you step up and say wait what are you doing well I'm just telling you that that person's this and that wait how do you know that well I heard shut up stop hearing plug your ears you'll be holier if you put cotton in yours and stop hearing things but even more so tape your mouth shut because everything you're hearing and interpreting as fact which is in fact and then speaking it

back you're adding to the evil in the world that people I can't learn will SAP into energetically and become dictators stop feeding the world with more hate somebody step up and if I hear two of you one of you are gossiping at about another I don't step up like always in a firm way and shame you if you get out of hand I might but my goal would be the shift not how I do it but being guided as as to how to best shift the moment and if it's somebody who's physically being aggressive I've seen that a couple

times in my life just a couple times and I'm not going to go well it's not even really happening is it nor am I going to say karma you know well I guess why do they create that if somebody's harming somebody and they're out of control in some way I'm gonna probably do what I can to help but I'm not gonna judge one's a victimizer and one's a victim the problem is hurt and hate ego is happening we need to stop it so that human beings might have a chance to rethink it you're not stopping it

because someone's good or someone's bad that would be getting hooked into judgment because again you're walking down the street there's a violent occurrence they're trying to pull their egos trying to pull you off your Center so I'm not gonna be pulled off and I'll just walk by no for me you should do only do what you feel you can do in a moment but for me I'm going to do what I can to stop that from middle-school times when kids would fight I remember a couple times couple fights and teachers

picked me hey you Michael you know take them up to the office I'm like there's two of them they could thump me if they want to but I could sense that the teacher saw something in me that I trusted and nobody ever did anything to me you see a cop could say I want you to do me a favor and do the traffic or whatever oh that's great yeah I want to be the one out there that people are getting annoyed at for having to slow them down and you know you know it doesn't matter you you you access something beyond the

human you and you realize I can do anything and if it's running into a burning household to save family members or whatever it is that's miracle-working you shift into I am NOT the thing that would be presented as a test today I'm something that's beyond that and that's where you're living evidence of forgiveness see just to say forgiveness is one thing to walk in and bring that level of forgiveness is completely another thing and it's mind-boggling because people can sense it they can

feel it when you walk into a room carrying that vibe you're making a difference vibrationally you're making a difference in that room is that making sense have you ever felt like you've actually done this at least once in your life that you brought that frequency to the moment an argument or whatever it happens to have been right now you you can say yeah I remember I did that once or twice now remember it's supposed to be happening all the time don't judge yourself for not but just ask yourself

how you can how can I be that presence more often and you're going to be tempted if I said you know go out and practice it and come back next week you'll come back with stories and you'll be tempted to think I fixed some people and you'll still have a lesson which is we're all in this together when they're acting out yeah you're doing a great job shifting into Center staying in the center and helping but you're just as vulnerable as they are so to speak for temporarily as humans to buy into it

tomorrow maybe they'll be helping you tomorrow you know but who's going to ask for the help that's the vulnerable that's what helps and be responsible that's what helps bringing us into a state of potential forgiveness you'll never go from judgment to forgiveness without responsibility responsibility for your thoughts your words your deeds whatever it happens to be and then when you end up asking for forgiveness or asking to forgive yourself or others you're really asking for healing of misperceptions because

God saw the same thing it just didn't see the same thing if that makes sense there's two people fighting God does not see heart hate ego and conflict God sees light there well how come I can't see light well here's the trick you and I anytime in life when we've ever pulled up the banner pulled out the sword or did something to take action for even healing arts and working with our hands and surgical tools any time you were ever doing you had already judged yourself as incapable of doing it just

through shifting the consciousness we are all made in the image of God therefore capable of shifting things with the mind of God we are we really are however on planet Earth if you get a flat tire I recommend that you actually get out and change the tire rather than I'm good you know and continue driving on this planet you're gonna be tempted to do those things literally you're gonna still feed yourself instead instead of saying I'm fed by the light of God go ahead and still eat but ask yourself ask spirit to help you but ask

yourself am I ready to shift and believe in more than this I'll get out and change the tire but instead of judging myself for still having to do instead of be instead of the beings taking care of me I'm gonna do the tire changing but there's a part of me that gets frustum speak as Michael there's a part of me that still gets frustrated with those kinds of things here and there when I'm saying to myself wow I still did some action here instead of just through consciousness and I just put it on my

life chart that it is what you know my goal to continually do more and more to become the consciousness to become not to do the consciousness to become the consciousness and that's just put it there and I just become it more and more every day not judging as much the times when I slip but it'll be tempting there'll be times when I think well that chair needs to move from there to there damn you know it's still there it didn't work it's okay because you're becoming more like God when you forgave yourself

for not being able to do it the way God could have done you're closer to God when you forgive yourself for not being more like God then if you kept trying to be like God and failing you get that so when we forgive we are on earth we're being closer to being like God than any other time in our lives when you practice forgiveness because you're shifting into the divine mind when you truly forgive if your way down the scale of forgiveness saying fine I'm gonna forgive them because I'm spiritual and

they're not that's not true forgiveness but when you're really doing your best to try the highest forms of forgiveness you can understand then you are doing your best to be more like God than in any other time and that tells me God all forms of forgiveness are beautiful all forms I just got to do my best to meet the level of math but then ask yourself could I go a little higher today if all you can do is gratuitous forgiveness fine but are you willing to try anything more than that and we're gonna do a

little something here in our meditation we'll practice a little something it might stretch your imagination a bit might push the envelope a bit just do your best to accept let's shift into that now take a few centering breaths please a few repetitions of I am on the inhale relaxed on the exhale and just soak in a few ideas first we meet all kinds of people on this planet

they seem to be 8 billion ish types of people and we can narrow them down a little bit genders races but in context of today there's roughly four types of people for example that we deal with in terms of judgment and so on there are people who are just hateful then they don't like you there are those who claim to love you despite your flaws oh I really do love you despite your flaws which is still affirming that they want to stay hung on those flaws there's who those who say they like you or love you but they actually turn on

you that's hypocrisy so those who just don't like you those who say they like you and turn on you those who say they like you despite your flaws those 3 groups are what most human beings do and we get upset because not only are they not doing what we want them to do they're doing the very opposite very often so we have to forgive people for what they've done to us but also what they wouldn't do for us and the last group of people it's those people who say they like you or love you they do

encounter challenges with you here and there but they still love you anywhere anyway and that's different then I love you despite your flaws because they're still focused on the flaws real love real friends and when you find them give thanks to yourself and to them people that are willing to love or like you but also to look at themselves the ones that say despite your flaws are still talking about you and projecting on you the ones that say such-and-such that you did triggers me but I'm looking at myself

and releasing it and after I released it I felt like I loved you even more that's profound and that is where you get a holy relationship now think of a person in your life that has most ever challenged you a person that most challenged you in your life person from the past a person repetitively through your life an ex if you don't have one I can't think of one think of a type of person like a historic person a really really good test for you today and then I'd like you to please hear yourself saying these

words to them just quietly your eyes close feel like your soul your heart is saying this if it challenges you just try to go with it if you cannot then take a few centering breaths and wait till we're done but if you can do it try to imagine you're saying these words to them whoever they are naming them in my experience or relationship with you I feel that you were hurtful and selfish and now I understand what was really happening your ego was trying to pull me into your ego centeredness and you were

trying to do that by getting me to hate you by getting me to fear you but I refuse to go to your ego centeredness I will not give you the pleasure instead I'm going to draw you into my spiritual center as this is the place where I'm willing to shift the balance of power back to myself by taking responsibility and learning what I can from our experiences learning what I can does not mean justifying your behavior it means asking myself what can I learn maybe it's I'm gonna learn how to slow down

the pace of a relationship get to know a person maybe it's I'm gonna need to learn my value whatever I can learn I'm gonna learn and that happens in my centeredness if I react to you or hate you I mean your ego Center I'm saying no I refuse to hate you and I draw you into my lessons my learning my acceptance into my spiritual center and lastly I'm no longer being tempted to react from or get dragged into that ego Center of yours instead I affirm that when I stand in my spiritual Center I affirm that

there's light in you just like it's in me and all beings that God creates I am affirming that there's a light in you made in God's image and I release you to find that light and as I've drawn you in to my spiritual center you and I are that light you of all people are now joined with me two or more committed to the remembrance of the Christ self am I really calling in the mean person no I already said no to that person I already said I'm not coming to your ego send so if I'm drawing this person in I'm

really only asking inviting their Christ's divine self and some of us are gonna say they don't have that which is fine what that really means is I'm still gonna remain hurt for a little longer and that's fine so close by either saying to them and so it is these things are true I refuse to hate you I will learn what I need to learn and I affirm the light of God in you or you can send it said say at the end no I refuse to remain hurt for a while longer either one you want hear the words reverberating and so it is and then keep

your eyes closed but here and so it is and close by soaking up what does it feel like when I said and so it is does that bring me the the I'm gonna remain hurt kind of affirmation or is there something miraculous happening don't just think it with your head how do I feel after making either of those men and and so it is give thanks to yourself for making that healthy choice give thanks to this person for by no accident they pop into your mind there must be a healing that needed to happen and you didn't just

choose anybody I asked you to choose even amongst those who most ever challenged you and you still survived nobody spontaneously combusted by choosing to work forgiveness on the most challenging person and if they did they're gone so we don't know it anyway gradually stretch out please everybody survived it but look at the goodness that it can bring the world if you can bring the most challenging character to a place of a new level of forgiveness imagine what that can do to the world if your person was controlling not just the

person their style their behavior was controlling you just released controlling energy to a new level for all of us if the person was you know abusive overtly physically abusive you just released that to a new level instead of asking God telling God to fix these things we are asked to be in the trenches and drawing the light of God to these experiences and that's how they're healed and the last thing just remember this all the people I mean it's the way we contrast things think of a person you've gone into court and fought with

or person verbally you're arguing with there's that type of relationship there's another kind that's amazing you walk up an aisle with them you know or you meet them at the end of the aisle and you you the proverbial u-turn you know and you look at them and you lift up this veil exposing this beautiful partner or you you know just imagine you're playing this role lifting the veil off your beloved do you take the bubble bubble bubble ball you know and then I do and kiss but those sound like

two completely different stories one of them they have beautiful gowns and you know and gorgeous and they're the light and the flowers and everybody's there to support this experience and then there's people you fought with an argument all people including the ones you're fighting with and arguing with are brides waiting to have the veil lifted the veil that separates you from seeing their beauty so don't just live fails on brides we have to lift veils on everybody because the bride in this

context would be the Christ self in that person and some of them let's raise it up slowly let's raise it up slowly because I'm very clear there's a demon under that veil but when you recognize the veil will not be able to rise while I hate and resent and judge the veil lifts as I forgive so it can't reveal someone that's horrible any more and any fear that that would be the case is just my residual doubts and you know fears that this could actually be forgiven so forgiveness lifts the veil then I see

the Christ's beautiful person there but how can I see their beauty without seeing my own so they're exposing that for myself okay