Abortions and Miscarriages: The Real Story

today I'm going to talk about a topic you know that's a bit charged for some people which is not unusual really because we talk about you know struggles and relationships narcissism we've talked about you know just so you know so many different topics that people struggle with relationships even sexuality can be a charged topic so we really navigate a lot of different directions our Sunday presentations are a bit more focused on spiritual inspirational talks the Friday ones seem to be a little more

pop psychology topics you know modern day topic stuff that's going on for people just it could be latest planetary alignments to just personal struggles so it's a little more psychology Friday nights and a little more spirituality on Sundays okay now today as I was starting to say we're going to talk about something that might seem a little more geared for women but really it still does apply for men at least peripherally the topic today has to do with abortion and miscarriages so you know what a what

a heavy topic even as I say that you know what we're going to talk about the title I can just feel already that that wave of energy from folks watching whether even if you're watching three months after we film this it doesn't matter I can already set some fairly intuitive you know most of you would know that by now but I can just feel that that wave and I can just I can even see some of the faces in our groups and so forth it we're watching online and probably feel that some of you have had

miscarriages didn't know you had them some of you have had them do know that you had them some of you were fine with it others were in some ways wounded severely same with abortion some of you are really really horrified by the experience others felt like it was a fairly simple innocuous kind of necessity so there's a lot of different mentions a lot of different perspectives on this now a couple of people have had sessions this week with that very topic some with one some with a few abortions and you know it just seems like such a

strange topic because in a way it involves our health but yet it involves there's political strains into it social strains into an economic strains there's these tentacles coming from different places entering and you know if you argue this politically you know we're gonna get anywhere all it'll just go on and on like all political things they're designed to go nowhere because their ego based it's an ego based system so yes clearly we have the right to decide what's happening with our body

and then somebody says well you have the right to decide abortions but not allowing yourself you know a medical version of suicide you know so this compassionate way of checking out when you're in a lot of pain you're not allowed to do this but you are allowed to do that and on and on and on and then at what age are you really allowed and that goes again politics and social systems I'm not really interested in that at all I'm just giving you a spiritual perspective a spiritual perspective and one of the first things

that I share it with either of the people that brought it up in sessions this week first thing I said I understand I do and we should all you don't jump into your stuff your your opinions your religions and religions are mostly political even though they're seemingly separate church and state they're not they're very political they're affiliated with politics in many ways but they're also by themselves very political so I just say to two women you know look I understand it's okay sorry

that you went through that you know a comfort people try to understand comfort share compassion with people that's the first goal it doesn't matter what you think is right or wrong in one case and she might be watching but in one I remember she said you know even from the pulpit they went to church they were Catholic and they went to church and the priest was tell discussing even alternative forms of pregnancy you know other than just straightforward traditional you know across the board whether its position timing whatever

just from the pulpit said it's a sin and you know you're gonna go to hell and so for using alternative means whether it's test-tube babies or whatever else it might be it's interesting because you know what audacity it takes to stand at the pulpit and tell someone it's interesting because I stand here and tell you opinions right but I'm not telling you you're gonna go to hell eternally so you know I might advise you you know you might want to consult a psychic about this or you might want to

have a session with me about that you might want to consider changing your diet if you're dealing with this those are opinions and for me they're generally going to be successful in their application and that in itself take Jesus himself saying by the fruits you shall know them but to know if something works for you to know if something's right look at its success rate I feel pretty successful in the things I advise people whatever those things might be relationship advice or whatever it is but I still wouldn't tell

somebody they're gonna go to hell because I or my religion which I don't have one thank God no offense to you who do but you know that according to my religion which is built by people and then organized by people and seemingly sustained by people but there's a very little sustained in it my little system tells me you're going to go to hell I don't even you know know you you're in the audience I don't know your system I don't know your condition I don't know your circumstances it doesn't matter

because you're gonna go to hell I thought that was just you know what what a sad thing to hear that some little girl some young girl I'm saying you know here's that and she gives birth to a child alternative ways and you know and then suffers physically from it lots of postpartum and other things coming up it's just horrible that that you would put somebody in that now here's what's interesting about that one thing that's interesting about it is that the person you told they're gonna

go to help for this you already put them there you already put them there and their money you already put them there circumstantially they're now living in hell and and in a sense what I would tell you is the person that put you in hell is himself going to be in hell his own version if his version is after you die he'll experience some form of Hell after he dies for sending this girl to hell while she was still alive now I might be sounding a little bit pissed off or a little bit firm but that's

because it's insane to do that to people hurting people in any way is insane I understand that in this universe things are an illusion but in the illusion it doesn't help to perpetuate an illusionary pain it doesn't do us any good even if it's considered by some to be an illusion it doesn't matter it's still painful while you're here so we need not perpetuate Hell here or in the afterlife now that's not what the talks about but that's a part of it people have been really guilted and shamed with

things like decisions like abortions so let's be really clear is it right is it wrong you know does it hurt an entity does it not hurt an entity yeah well you'll just argue that forever there's going to be most of you are comfortable with what I'm saying one in every so many is going to go well no I don't agree I've my politics says that that's wrong my religion says it's wrong totally fine I understand but be careful not to drop into hell over it and be careful not to put other people in hell over your

opinions on that try to be nice try to be peaceful try to bring people peace try to bring them come and understanding no on the flipside am I being all flippant and careless of carefree about it am i saying hey don't worry have 10 abortions it doesn't matter and keep you know sleeping with whomever you want get pregnant oops I'll just have another abortion no that's actually careless it's irresponsible first of all just to be sleeping with everybody but irresponsible and if you say well it wasn't everybody's one

person well then why didn't you want the baby well because they tend to beat me up now and again or they tend to not have a job we're broke and we're living out of our car why then are you with them irresponsible to be getting pregnant well we couldn't afford contraception well they actually give those things away I think as far as I understand they maybe though they don't do that anymore but as far as I know they give those away at Planned Parenthood I don't even know if there's Planned Parenthood still

it still exists sorry men I'm old but you know in clinics there's ways guys you know there's no excuse well my partner doesn't like wearing the condom then tell him to cut his penis off and stop using it you know don't let some some shallow ass tell you I refuse to have sex unless we can go without a condom tell them didn't you know have fun you know I'm I'm gonna practice responsible safe sex now all that said mind you I I've done stupid things in my life as it you're responsible things I'd call it

stupid cuz that's what we called it then back high school you know yeah we didn't even think of consequences you know there wasn't any major fatal diseases at the time you know at least not constant around us and we you know we we were careless about these things we were kids I mean even if I could afford condoms as a kid what am I to do put him in my drawer my parents find and that would have been as a bit of a scene so there was all kinds of reasons and that brings us back to the fact that the concept of

sexuality needs healed the shame around it let alone the you know the potential offspring that can come from it literal you know biological anatomical beings entities spirits coming in you know to mention metaphoric kinds of consequences the emotional kind so moving on words here you know it both sides are a little off and you know they're the population on this planet is a billion now quadrupled in just a couple generations if it quadruples again guys we're gonna have 30,000 people within a hundred years not good at all but but there's

religions and cultures that perpetuate more children have lots of children you might be one of those families or cultures I think the great enjoy yourself you know if that you believe it's irresponsible and it's pretty ridiculous when you look at the planet and its resources you're bringing people in and perpetuating a pattern of self-destruction really why because well my religion my belief might be but wait but why did they say that well my people believe because of this or that yeah a culture from what thousand years ago ten

thousand or whatever does that mean it applies today or my religion says so your religion says so believe it or not mostly because it's an incredibly perfect strategy to increase profit margins you're creating your own sense of clientele as it were the more kids they have the more your religion grows the more grows and more profitable it becomes so you know when people say they're doing missionary work they should be going out and doing you know work with people to to do changes you know let people get vasectomies and so

forth and you help them get down that again I'm not expecting to step in anytime soon the cultures and the religions are going to fight that but it's all programming and so speaking of programming yeah the shame that goes with with you know people having abortions and I'm so sorry man if that's you you know so sorry about that I remember you know having that quest for myself what am I gonna do you know my family's gonna give me a hard time because you know I have one or two children or whatever

oh you can't afford children you you know you don't you're not responsible enough I got all that for having them not you know you shouldn't have them or you know mine in mind it was the one side that you you you can't afford them and shaming me to not have them you know so it's an interesting thing to have to go through because you can't win either way somebody's going to complain but I'm very grateful in my case that I had my children however if I was in and out of constant you know relationship

constantly if I were completely broke living in my car I can't imagine that I would have wanted to do something like that so and and women are raped sometimes and of course that's rare compared to the number of abortions the number of abortions based on rape is rare compared to the number of just unwanted pregnancies you know and also I don't agree that you should let the baby develop X number of months it's excessive number a month and then decide I would say trying to do that early on and when you say well the the dad

doesn't want to be involved guys if you're one of those or if you have children that are like of that honest-to-god man get papers signed so that you never have to hear from that person again because the last thing you want have a child with somebody you don't want to have a child with and then deal with it legally till they're 18 that that's is that's as much hell I if I were the child and could speak you know in the womb I'd say kill me now man I don't want to be part of you people

you need people are nuts so as as you know it appropriate as I might sound there's reason for that you know so I'm just saying understand that it's okay if you made that decision across the board go through the Bible and what you're gonna hear is this based on what God has to say you're gonna have regrets if you have an abortion you might have regrets but you'll have them about jobs you've taken in relationships you've chosen whatever other you know you'll have sometimes you eat certain foods and

regret it but the Bible is gonna tell you if you want to know what God thinks up rats of any kind including abortion I've said this in classes before did you learn from it that's what God says if you learned from it wonderful close the door done let's move on so did you learn from the abortion well if you had to you could say I guess I didn't because I you go you know to well no it might take you one and you learn something too you learn some three learns them you're always hopefully learning but did you also learn

that's all credited mind you but did you also learn in the big picture stop having babies with people that you don't love stop having relationships and sex with people that you're not feeling a loving respect for yes the old saying that you know why have sex with somebody if you're not willing to have pregnancy well that's a little narrow but it's a good it's a good standard to go by I would also just say when you're with a person talk about it's part of what you're supposed to do not just safe sex

but in terms of disease but also is there a chance of a child here if we have an accident as it's called if you're a girl and you say no way please stick to that unless you're in a partnership and you both mutually decided to do this let's have a baby but otherwise guys stick to your Integrity's be honorable impeccable with your word please if you say I'm not going to have the baby and you both risk you know unprotected sex and get pregnant I believe that the woman should stick to her agreement all right I'm not gonna

have the child or sign the guy off and leave him out of it do not go knocking on his door for money later that's the integrity of it I'm just I'm not telling you went years right or wrong for you but that's an integrity piece to it all a lot of gals you know I've had sessions you know how many tens of thousands of sessions over the years doing work with people honest to god tens of thousands and a good you know there are a fair number of those who have had you know sexual issues and abuses but also the wounding in the

me you know related to abortions it can affect muscle tissue muscle memory soft tissue throughout the pelvis it can affect orgasm non orgasm it can affect a guilt shame self-esteem weight excess weight weight on the thighs and the hips I'm not blaming everything you know weight wise on just a portion I'm just saying it can have an effect it can affect disease whether it's enter mitosis or whether it's bladder infections all kinds of things can can be an effect but some people will say to me so now what Michael I had abortions

what do I do did you learn or you you know can you say you're done did you get it yes okay then that that helps a good portion of the past let it be gone now what else can we do we conducive body work to release some things we can do some prayer work but but a lot of the gals are asking but what about the child did I kill someone I would say to you generally no no most mystics and traditions throughout history understand that the soul enters typically at the first breath there's still a biological thing happening it's a biological thing

happening that's all it's it's it's a process that is that is physical developing the so so are you putting the end to the biological thing yes but there's not life in it there's not a soul you didn't kill a person and entity and I know some of you are going to be relieved to hear that some of your gonna be angry at me for saying that but it is what it is the soul typically enters at the first breath a little bit sooner sometimes a little bit later sometimes I've shared some of these stories but I

remember when my youngest daughter was born bless her you know she's probably 34 by now but when she was born I remember I was I just finish today it was a home birth I remember I just finished a course in miracles' class that I taught in the living room the group of people in a circle and walked them outside see you all later thank you talking to the last few folks and and I remember I stand there talking all of a sudden you know I just saw this like a shooting star and I Wow said that was the soul of the child that

came to the house believe it or not I'm not saying that's what it always looks like another one of my children the soul just hovered around mom you know sometimes you know into the body to feel her a little in the outside but typically it's like kids saying you they hang out in your aura that's kind of a good description they hang out in the room in your aura in your space it's kind of just checking it out and getting a feel for you know this is mom and good to see you again because there's past

life connections and so forth but when you choose to abort a child earlier on mind you this developing thing I'm not saying you don't love the baby I'm not saying you because of course you put your hand on it it responds but but guys just because somebody will argue and say the baby responds when I put my hand that proves there's something you believe this too when you're connecting with the baby that you think is all here and some of it's out here it's hard out here quickens and gets excited and since

that's it's going to be it's inhabitated place you know it's home it's habitat then that habitat responds to that's one answer for that also it's a biology and believe it or not plants respond to your touch that doesn't mean that when you trim them you've murdered your dieffenbachia you know your philodendron it's okay so III understand that there people are gonna have those different feelings and arguments about that and there's I think it's beautiful you should put your hands on your tummy

and love the being because to you that's the symbol now if you could see its soul hovering out here you would almost be hard-pressed to feel any attachment to the thing in the tummy cos compared to the light being out here oh my god you know that that being up there it's like heaven versus earth you know you could say well I really love earth but when people pass over with near-death experiences ninety-nine out of a hundred are like what earth Wow look at that the light the glory that sparkles the peace the joy it's so much more intense

so you know it's okay this is what you know it to be your child so so do that connect with it absolutely it's like using a crystal or a sacred mountain or whatever sacred well to do your prayer work God isn't all encapsulated in that well or in that crystal but you can use it as a portal or a point of focus to connect with God spirit whatever so it's it's kind of like you know it's kind of like that so I'm just saying it's all okay and did you learn anything from it and if you're suffering and you think I

know I did something wrong and I but now that I heard Michaels talk I don't have to worry so I'll go out get pregnant again and have another abortion I didn't say that at all the Karma is yours the Karma is not what you did to an entity because you're not doing to an entity it's not in there usually but you are doing to yourself your lack of self-worth to be with people that aren't right for you your lack of self-worth to let your body be invaded like that time and again and and I've oh my god I've heard some of the

most gruesome stories of people doing abortions having abortions in some of the seedy locations and oh it's just bizarre so all that adds to the whole II you know I mean it doesn't matter if it's an abortion could have been your tonsils but if it wasn't an alley somewhere you know and you know seedy behaviors here your body's gonna remember that I mean it's gonna be like my god who are these people and they don't even seem to care somebody paid him you know with a sack of money and you know it's gonna have

yucky vibes and that's not what you want with your body with your soul or even with a child if you did have it you wouldn't want that energy now good news is that three out of four times maybe you could say nine out of ten times when you had a child like a baby and you're pregnant and you aborted if there was a child soul that was wanting to enter use common sense guys first of all I was saying nine out of ten times that souls gonna come back in your next child anyway I swear to God you know it's not like it'll say well fine you're

gonna be that way then you could just get some other baby you know no they're gonna come back to you so if you've had children after abortions often you still have the same soul come through so that's pretty cool at the same time if you didn't have another child it doesn't exclude this because the child's soul may not it's still not there you didn't harm anything so you don't have anything that needs to come back as your next child but I'm saying if you did have a soul nearby it wouldn't matter because

typically it's going to come back now what cases would there be for it to not come back in your family as you know your child well a lot of things for example it could be a different partner completely you got pregnant with one gonna had an abortion you had another guy the Karma with that guy is very different so even if there were a soul around hanging around in my not even been a soul you would have felt great with because it would have been one that's karmically tied to the guy that you decided not to have a child with and

at the same time yes there's the instances where you say okay well I moved on to somebody else the other one who died unfortunately and I love them or we unfortunately we broke up due to a certain circumstance but I still love them you know there's still energy differences between the guys a different Karma different paths in fact that thing that happens sometimes infant death unexplained infant death they used to call crib death for example it isn't under it you know unexplained as so much as it used to be a big mystery they

would say we don't know it's just called crib death what happened most of the time in crib death is that there's a certain frequency in the in the household literally household and metaphor the family energy but there's an energy there's a vibe and a child comes through now the child could say I have a bunch of stuff from the past that I'm carrying and I'd like to clear it could be horrible stuff bad karma or it could just be residual bits of lifetime's and it says you know I think I'm gonna come

in I'm gonna stay only for days or weeks and I'm gonna then check out because I'll be done that'll that's my mic clearing my fulfillment time I remember Eiger Casey I shared this in a class somewhere in the past but I remember at your KC had had some you know rude life times couple of times you know just a little bit harsh you know like a you know just not always sweet guy and it's a couple times really really harsh and because of his doings the car moves with him he one time incarnated as a bastard

child to a king to a king and queen but as a bastard child so he was sort of having to be hidden and in a monastery and you know naturally the powers that be find out and then they send an assassin and they murdered him I think he was 12 maybe 8 10 12 somewhere in there and you and you and I would go god that's horrible but the soul of Casey was like let's do it let's get it over with you know I did the same to someone else somewhere along the line let's let's just clear it so there are more things in heaven and

earth that are dreamt of in all your philosophies and vengeance is not ours really we don't we we can't know or claim to know each why things happen and why the why the repercussions the vengeance and so on and it isn't God that says I'm gonna get you for that so that's an example you know the crib deaths and so don't don't think that even if you want to believe that there's a child involved or that you had a child pass away oh I know it's the Karma because I did abortion oh my god it was God

getting back at me guys not a chance in hell not a chance in hell or in heaven or on earth it's not a chance God is not punishing us ever it's our own karmic conscience you could say karma and conscience are somewhat the same word but it's not it's not at all God punishing us but it is a compensation of sort of sorts because it is our own karma our own feelings our own beliefs so when a woman says you know I had an abortion I've had women come to me and say I'm struggling with a certain issue

let's see bladder infections or whatever it is sometimes it's a bladder infection other times I'll say you know because I do intuitive readings with people as well as healing and I say you had an abortion didn't you now if I said that and they said no then I wouldn't be inaccurate and I would have a record of an accuracy if I was inaccurate a lot but no I didn't find no no no and find an accurate very rare that I would be inaccurate on something maybe I misspoke it or maybe I miss perceived and got

something wrong in it but not typically inaccurate and I say you had an abortion didn't you yes how did you know you know it's a vibe I can feel or sometimes it's sexual abuse that they're carrying in their body my point is not about my accuracy my point is to say that it can be felt by some of us that there's something going on and how how am I feeling that because you're putting it out there it's in your vibes now if I'm right that it's in your vibes and that's how I pick it up then is it also not

right that if you're putting it out there it's in your vibes that that's also what the universe does you know the universe is saying sweetheart we sense that you're really carrying a lot of shame and guilt around this your soul yes I really am and then well okay what is it going to take to clear it so you can find peace you know and some on some level in our ego insanities you know we say well you know I guess I'm just such a terrible person I guess I need to lose a child or I need to have another a child that I

want to have and I miscarry because it's the guilt you know it's my penance for abortion and yes it kind of is but it's yours not anybody else and on god's yeah sometimes that's what you'll do have an abortion and then you'll have a couple miscarriages but it isn't karmic hand of God from the heavens it's you believing that that's what you need to do because you're feeling so upset inside even if you don't know you're feeling upset it's probably still there and being carried

so you need to forgive my phrase get over yourself you need to let yourself off the hook now do I mean be flipping the other side and go it doesn't matter carefree que sera sera let's have another abortion no I'm saying learn from it and by learn means learn to care for other beings in case you have a child of course or you are pregnant you want to bring it through love it of course but love yourself love yourself enough to not have unwanted pregnancies love yourself enough to not be with somebody that's

you know in a inappropriate or that's gonna say you know you're gonna have an abortion whether you like it or not I insist or I'm gonna leave you and then all God I don't want that so I'm gonna do it you know with or without already having children with them again are you agreeing to have unprotected sex then you know then you're agreeing to not get pregnant then don't get pregnant guys girls but at the same time you know if I were really really feeling called to have a child and someone else didn't

want it I would I would sign papers let them sign papers be done and get out of their life because I wouldn't want them tracking me down and getting money from me nor would I want them tracking me down and causing any other problems I'd say I'm making this decision and you don't want the child at the very least that's what I would do if not aborting I would just say you know I'm gonna find another way to clear this and not have you involved so do you I know I know so many different people have different

perspectives of these things but just hang in there with ms best you can the child doesn't enter usually until birth you're fairly safe there but learn your lessons you're being irresponsible and that will bring karma based on your own consciousness yes miss care urges are often repercussions you could call it karmic but you can also call it anatomical your body's affected sometimes drastically from abortions and then it will affect you know whether it's infections or whatever else it can

affect your body it can affect your menses you know menstruation you're PMSing your and of course menopause are you know is another time when a lot of that old stuff can come back and really haunt a person but guys if a soul is really really supposed to be coming through you when I say guys I mean girls too obviously but when a soul if it's really yours really meant to come to you do you really think you can stop it by a mistake and I don't want to be pregnant I'm only 14 and my family will kill me

and get the abortion you're 14 and if that's what you need to do that if that's what you need to do do it if that's what you want and what that's what you want to do because I've also known people who have been absolutely disowned and tossed into orphanages at 14 because they got pregnant that goes back to the beginning of time in the Dark Ages the people being so mistreated you know for you know for just mistakes mistakes you're supposed to be forgiven that's all they're not supposed to be

punished they're supposed to be forgiven not enabling mistakes but if if a person like Jesus says comes to you and says I really get it I'm sorry should you forgive them he says yes when they're sincerely going I got it apology and amends I'm done I got it that is already fertile ground for forgiveness he didn't react lycée forgive even if people are insincere even if people will do it again and again and even if they're in the middle of harm just pretend it's not happening he didn't actually say it that way his

words when he say forgive 70 times 70 and so on when he's saying that he says when they come with a sincere the word as repentance and repentance means apology and amends and immense means I got it I'm not going to repeat this mistake so if people are sincere when they apologize to you meaning apology and amends then do your best to Paulo to to forgiving that means to not hate them and to affirm there's light in them and wish them well whether they're with you or gone wish them well you know but if a child is meant to come

through you it's gonna come through you it'll be your next child it's okay it's meant to come to you and you say oh no but but I didn't have any more children after my abortion so it didn't there may likely not even Minnis all there yes it was a beautiful biological experience that's great so is so is sometimes your most yummy foods it's a wonderful biological taste flavor I'm not limiting child to just you know having a sandwich I'm just saying that biological things can be beautiful and

they can be so is lovemaking pleasurable beautiful you know it's the way it is it's wonderful I'm not minimizing that thing but that thing doesn't mean there's life being destroyed and again I'm not telling you to be flippant about it because you need to learn lessons about what you're doing with your life not about that that entity you think is there but that child coming through it's it's just cool because if it's meant to come through it's gonna come through it'll find a way and sometimes you're

gonna have a child that that you aborted and let's just say you aborted you know oh you're what you believe to be an entity but a child a body or whatever and you have an abortion and then you say well that now what happened to that child guys and if you had no children after Michael there's a an example of I never got that child and he'd even spoke to me in my dreams before the abortion and you know I had a name for it a gender I was really connected so there really was something not in your body

but maybe out here but there was still an entity wanting to come through and I didn't so now what do I do there's a there's an exercise that I do in my the big book I wrote called sacred sexuality there's a big book and that's called a manual living bliss in there there's an exercise for this you know maybe someday I'll just find a way I'll just copy it and make it a free download on my website but there's something like that that you could do that's like a goodbye a thank you to the child but what I was

leading to is this sometimes you say well there might have been a child and it felt like that child was just like a savior like a light and then I didn't have it so now what guys what do what are you missing here do you really have such limited beliefs if it's a if it's a child you connected with it's still there and it can still be like a guardian angel to you so connect with it it's not gone because it you know you're unworthy because you had an abortion it's there just say beloved sweetheart I

hope you understand and it'll say of course I do and you know this was challenging and so on but would you still be with me my child would you still be like if we were gonna do creative things would you still inspire me with creative things God it's amazing if you could see these things clairvoyantly these things still actually work it's an amazing thing this this when you get into spirit and not just bodies you realize there's so much going on that you know then meets the eye but it's a beautiful thing so your

child could inspire you to create toys for children but what do I know about toys I don't even have any children you do let it inspire you it could inspire you read children's books it can inspire you to write poems but not necessarily all children related things it can inspire you to leave the relationship you were in believe it or not hmm you know that's you know it's like mom yeah I don't mind I don't blame you for getting rid of me because I'd get out of there too if I were you

walking out you know it does man it does happen there's so many so many layers that people just don't understand but the soul the soul will return and I'm gonna say it this way the soul will return in one form or another if not through body and become your child than other forms i've known cases where the child that was aborted gone had another child and then the aborted soul the aborted child the soul of that came as the second or even the third child and you know it's it's um I just I just

think it's such a it's a wonderment that I feel for it to say wow look at how how much love there is in the universe that that these Souls want to be close and they're gonna come through anyway it's kind of like what you think you're doing harmfully towards us all is more towards yourself that's what one you know point I made but what you think you're doing is kind of like saying I'll bet that if I drink some alcohol today I'm probably destroying Archangel Michael you're not

District you're not doing anything to the angels they're beyond your touch your destruction and in a way the souls of your children are beyond your hands harm it's it's oh you know I'm not enabling but I'm saying they're beautiful beings their souls you're not able to harm a soul with a physical act you're not that's why Jesus himself is saying you're not harming my body I mean you're not harming my soul you're you know you just what you do to my body if that

doesn't mean anything to me and and that's a big big part of his whole message so lennier the souls of your children have ever aborted and/or miscarried let it be understood that they're okay and at the same time miscarriages are not just karma yes they're your own guilt Carmen all that but that's not all they are miscarriages are often you're you're lucky but if you had an abortion you have now a miscarriage your body's trying to repair itself so it's saying you know you know

the system you have can't maintain a child so now you have a baby and it miscarries because your body hasn't repaired itself enough yet so even miscarriages I I mean just I know it may sound strange even twisted but to me even miscarriages are an amazing thing to understand when you really get it it's not lost loss loss it's really development development development and will you develop with your body your womb develop and heal enough whether whether you had abortions or not it could if you don't if you have

miscarriages something's not right in the body very clearly the child might have said no I change my mind and it's gone and it goes in miscarries or your body isn't quite right and so it goes through the process and says I'm sorry you know there are there are birds and animals that have the same thing where they're they're ill-equipped and so every time they give an offspring it dies before it even develops dogs can do that cats can do in their litter one of them can not be fully developed and it

just was it's just the way it is and so it's okay that it miscarries it goes because you it wasn't fully developed if you could force it to have sustained and live it would have been a horrible situation anyway so it's it's you know its nature taking its course I guess you could say in you know in some regards and I really believe in the earth-mother as a huge expression there's the universe mother I believe in the divine mother first and foremost I believe the universe is like her womb and I believe

the earth is like a manifestation of the egg in that womb in a sense but the Earth Mother is an expression of the cosmic mother the universal mother and that she's an expression of the Divine Mother just like the human mother's supposed to be an expression of the Earth Mother which is an expression of the universal mother and so on but the earth mother's because of free will are the only twisted ones in the whole you know Escalon in the whole hierarchy of expressions of mother because free will and living out of the out of nature out

of alignment with nature doing things that don't resonate and so on and so on so it's a bit of a bummer that people live that way but I do believe in their mother and I believe the earth-mother and you know I believe just more and more the the earth-mother knows how to recycle she knows how to take a tree that's been struck by lightning turns to ash bring the ash into the earth and then you know let that saturate down into the the streams which do something you know filtering out the streams because it's ash of some

kind and so there's like a in some ways like a charcoal effect to to clean the streams I mean she knows what she's doing so even if you miscarry even if you have an abortion the the Earth Mother does not hold you responsible or hurtful towards you hateful toward you she'll just recycle she knows what she's doing and I would just like you to practice like them practice feeling acting knowing what you're doing live in the zone just what feels organic you know if I put it if I put it in really kind of simplistic

terms I guess you could say my my slant you know my view of this whole thing is that love comes first okay and if people really understood what having children is all about oh what a different world we would have it looks like this basically two people come together they typically they come together they call it making love but most of them don't make love they just have sex that's all they I don't care what you typically want to call it making love it's not love can't be made love is so I'm in a

state of love you're in a state of love and then we love each other so much there's just this beautiful reciprocated sense of wow what is that this is amazing and then we love each other so much that something Erie's just irresistible it happens something so perfect and organic the love is so intense so great that it can't not have an offspring the child becomes like well I love you so much my cup runneth over and it becomes an other entity what you did was we took love and expanded it in the form of

another person and that's absolutely gorgeous if you think about it what humans do get together a little bit of a mood sometimes neediness emotion sometimes neediness physically you know listen are you in the mood sure me too they you know they screw each other or whatever they have sex they they you know like pounding rocks next you know next to a campfire or something and that's their version of sex wasn't that hot yeah yeah so is a fever you know but you you had this thing you call sex and you think it's great and then you have a

baby oops the whole thing is twisted you see the whole thing and then it's oops what are we gonna do sorry well you should have you know you should have you know well I couldn't help it I was in the mood you know and it's just all so screwed up and that's and then we we have these children and and we wonder why they're not always evolved we wonder why they have doubts and fears and challenges I mean what did they come from you know just messed up humans and I know it's challenging because it's not

like we can say you know humans shouldn't have children - they're like 45 or 50 when they start getting a clue about life you can't really put rules and laws out there like that especially since biologically that would be a little more challenging for some but humorously I can say that you know people can and really need to evolve more I don't want to bring a child into the world until I am of an adequate level of consciousness and that's when it becomes beautiful you know the whole concept and that's that's in a way

that's another talk the love that can be shared in lovemaking it's love sharing I'm not making love I'm sharing love I have and and on that note before we even decide to share love intimately sexually which you know that needs to be an offspring of how much love I feel for you and kissing has to feel so great hugging has to feel so great that I want guess you kissing has to feel so great not arousal wise hormonal II I'm talking about the love just keeps growing and if it's real love it doesn't end it doesn't

die it can't it's unconditional and it's forever so to me you know we go through phases of relationship because we're humans and then we have phases of our relationship with our children because we're humans but we're not supposed to be just humans having an experience here we're spiritual beings no matter what we think we are spiritual beings so take time in your own private moment and give birth to you know re rebirth your your baby as an energy say okay the baby that I aborted imagine I'm not going to do

the whole exercise I'm just saying imagine a ball of light in your womb and imagine giving birth to that I'm sure on the internet there's other versions of a process like this but give birth to that light now don't do it and then well I better do it again next week is I don't feel complete with it try to do it in a way that feels authentic and sincere and and and complete but just give birth to it like come into my life as a soul come into my life and breathe its presence into your heart we are now connected

forever forever we're connected I didn't just almost have a baby aborted baby it's gone it's dead it went somewhere and I'm going to hell after I die no man just say oops my bad I get it let's do that again spiritually and bring it through so find a process a ceremony that would feel right for you and I would also say if before you do that if you need to cry cry the wounds you can say goodbye don't get too morbid about it but you can go so far as to you know my child and I'm going to name it

so I can say goodbye to it thoroughly and authentically and if you need to a little ceremony if you need to bury arrey in some symbol a little seed or something in Burien you know garden put a flower above its you know spot and let it be plant a tree there if you need to want to you know just do something that feels like a closure of the pain and then not obsess on it from here on don't tell me you're doing it if you're still obsessing afterwards do it and do it authentically fill and the presence of

the the mother god call her in the the divine mother the universal mother the earth mother call all of them in be with me sacred beings and if you need to call some other girls with you to act as midwives in your ceremony it's absolutely fantastic cry together and also remember to end in the wonderment of God now I feel good I felt complete I feel whole I'm a whole woman too owned a new level and I feel honored for myself would I do any of those things decisions you know the wrong guy the wrong time

you know getting prayer and healthy sex you know back seat of a car whatever and yeah and then an abortions in an alley no and when you can say no it's not a chance you know you really got it you learned your lessons now that's done you don't need to obsess on guilts and shames be at peace be at peace so in this moment I'm choosing to for all of us and and we're all involved even the guys watching your wives went through this your girlfriends went through this your mom might have gone through it

unfortunately my own mom one time said to me you know your father was right we should have aborted you you know it was like wow that was kind of heavy to hear but it kind of fits in because I could see you know not wanting to be that part of their their family unit anyway right so it but it really kind of hit me and really kind of hurt but it also speaks to the kind of people they were in terms of their IQ level their EQ level and so on you know there wasn't a lot there on a deeper spiritual level and to I'm not

saying she they were messed up for considering an abortion I'm saying the the throwing that out there to a kid was probably not the sweetest thing in the so we guys to feel the effects of this we feel the terror when a girlfriend gets pregnant I know some of its selfish on our part but you know there's a lot of stuff for all of us even if you've ever heard a girl share her experience with that boom it's still you're still part of it even if you've never been part first handedly you're still where's

all together we're all in this together so we can all feel compassion and we can all share in this prayer that we're calling in the mother forgive us men and women alike old and young alike forgive us divine mother forgive us holy divine mother for the times that we failed or forgot how to reflect your perfection on this earth the times we forgot to Midwife other people into a new life the times and I mean not just literally with by babies but even projects the times we forgot to be nurturing and compassionate and the way

to hold space the vessel the way the womb woman is to do forgive us the times we forgot and I know in your holiness you've already forgiven us but show us now how to forgive ourselves show us how to find grace and peace in our hearts and souls help us to say goodbye to the shames and guilts of things we've done to our bodies we were absolutely acting insanely selfishly fearfully that there's no argument we were afraid but today we're choosing to not carry that fear another day we asked and said

instead just to feel a transformation we're going to end this with rising to a new level our babies that we may have lost babies children even that we had and wondered if we should any doubts appears these stories we heard of other people losing children and miscarriages are being devastated as well as in abortions and feeling such grief for them stories on the news and fights politically all of that energy is here and we're saying we're choosing to transmute that we have the power and the right to do that and we're transmuting

that energy with the power of the Holy Spirit that is the divine mother we're taking that energy we're transmitting it and we're letting all of those babies slash Souls slash experiences we're allowing them to come to us and give us a whole new level of understanding lessons learned and we're launching it to new levels of being creators on this planet guide us to have holy spiritual pregnancies with every project every inspiration even if it means birthing a child everything that we do let every client of ours if we're

counselors doctors nurses let every client including our own children as parents let everyone that comes to us find an hole perfect mother in us the Holy Mother the Divine Mother let us be that image for all beings because we learned our lessons and we launch into forgiveness and we release into new levels of consciousness and we soak that in and we give sincere thanks and even though the program will end you can leave it going and just hold this quietly and keep your eyes closed or you can shut it off and continue this vibe

your own prayer extra-added your own extending this further somehow whatever you need to do go ahead and do that if you didn't hear the beginning of the program I and you can join us another way so go back and watch the beginning and you'll just catch some of that if you'd like but definitely soak this in as best you can and we'll do what we can to to post or print at some point the the exercise for birthing and so that you can use it in ceremony and or you can find it with each other you can even post it as

you're watching this if you have a great one maybe other people would like to see it I'm happy to help promote that if it's something you have available all right so god bless you all thank you for listening especially such a sensitive topic and I pray that I've done a good job and that's sustaining that vibe and integrity and if I didn't I apologize but I did what I could so I hope it helps you in some way peaceful with all of you bye-bye